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PostPosted: October 23rd, 2020, 1:00 pm 
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Good afternoon,
I am planning a trip starting from the Gowanda area and traveling through the Little Hawk portages to the Grassy River and then continue on to Moose Factory. does anyone have updates on the route conditions and which topos cover this route.
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PostPosted: October 23rd, 2020, 3:57 pm 
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does this help?
http://ftp.maps.canada.ca/pub/nrcan_rnc ... 300dpi.pdf

example selection: 042 i 14
042i14
(selects the map with purple "Moose" in it)

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PostPosted: October 24th, 2020, 12:17 pm 
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Toporama is the online version of Natural Resources Canada’s archived 1:50000 topo maps and allows you to access all sorts of useful extra info.

https://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/toporama/en/index.html#

Go to the menu and open the Lap Layers and Legend folder. Click on Grid to have the topo map i.d. info appear on the map. Print all you need from Toporama. The maps are more up-to-date than the archived topos, some of which date to the 1970s and 80s.

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BTW - if you are really keen on seeing the archived topos they can be accessed at this website -

http://ftp.maps.canada.ca/pub/nrcan_rnc ... aphic/50k/

Re: The Little Hawks Portages from Pigeon Lake To Ferris Lake

The four portages were re-established in 2013 thanks to the work of Laurent Robichaud and Ed MacPherson. They have probably not been much used in the past seven years but some signage will help make things clear. The two following web pages have some info

a myccr trip report https://www.myccr.com/canoeroutes/little-hawk-portages

a write-up including a map https://www.ontarioriversalliance.ca/re ... tle-hawks/

Are you planning to go down via the Mattagami River? If so, there are a number of dams that you will have to deal with. I last did the Mattagami 40 years ago and remember one long truck ride around the major dam - a truck ride we only lucked into because met up with another canoe party (a Canadian Forces group) who had made arrangements to get shuttled. The details are a bit fuzzy but we may have been shuttled around all four dams, a total of 21 kilometers.

TBH, a river like the Missinaibi would make for a much more enjoyable trip with more of a wilderness feel, especially when comparing the lower parts of each river. No dams to deal with on the Missinaibi.

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After doing the upper Mattagami River, you could always get shuttled the 140 km. from Smoothrock Falls to Mattice and continue down to the Bay on the Missinaibi!

Or you could go Missinaibi all the way to Moose Factory from Dog Lake after getting off the Sudbury-White River train.

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 Post subject: Re: Grassy river
PostPosted: October 24th, 2020, 2:29 pm 
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alternatively,
if you dislike or are having problems with the online toporama tool that TrueNorth shared,
(i find it slows me down)
you can hand pick your maps here (since you know their codes):

http://ftp.maps.canada.ca/pub/nrcan_rnc ... k_utm_tif/
http://ftp.maps.canada.ca/pub/nrcan_rnc ... o/50k_tif/

I'd refer to the archive link that TrueNorth sent, only if the links above do not satisfy you.
(Canmatrix is considered legacy).

I set the links to give you IMAGE files instead of PDFs,
so you can easily crop and edit your maps. Click "Parent Directory" to see what else you can get your hands on (PDFS, larger scale, etc).


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 Post subject: Re: Grassy river
PostPosted: October 25th, 2020, 7:01 am 
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i forgot to add
https://mappingsupport.com/p2/gissurfer ... -maps.html

very nice, uncluttered and quick viewer, which allows to 'flip' the scene between topo view, sat view, etc. great for planning. allows location linking and other stuff. Not too much though. The main advantage is that it's fast, clean, and allows quick view flips.

Paired up with a simple screenshot app with draw tools (like Faststone Capture 5.3), you're ready to sail the world. Don't even need to do your trip anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Grassy river
PostPosted: October 26th, 2020, 3:17 pm 
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Are you planning to go down via the Mattagami River? If so, there are a number of dams that you will have to deal with. I last did the Mattagami 40 years ago and remember one long truck ride around the major dam - a truck ride we only lucked into because met up with another canoe party (a Canadian Forces group) who had made arrangements to get shuttled. The details are a bit fuzzy but we may have been shuttled around all four dams, a total of 21 kilometers.

I plan to take the Grassy River instead of doing the Sinclair Portage and going down the Mattagami . in hopes of having a remote feel.


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