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PostPosted: September 3rd, 2008, 12:39 pm 
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I returned from canoeing part of the upper Kazan River. We gained access via Kasba Lake Lodge. There were several other canoeing parties on the fly out of Wpg. Two Germans with several far north trips under their belt heading to Baker, a couple from BC who continued on to fly onto the Dubawnt River (also heading to Baker), and a couple from the USA, similar to us, canoeing the upper Kazan. Several days into our trip we visited with a wiji Y girls group, who fly in via Lynn Lake to Ennadai Lake. They were heading to Baker but leaving and then rejoining the Kazan after looping through Kunwak system. They said their boys group was on the Dubawnt, meeting them in Baker. It is alway wonderful to see young people on the land.

As always, where are all the Canadians?!

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PostPosted: September 3rd, 2008, 7:48 pm 
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Some of us were on the Mara & Burnside rivers

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PostPosted: September 3rd, 2008, 8:09 pm 
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Same old story I suspect. Far north trips are way too expensive for the average Canadian.


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PostPosted: September 4th, 2008, 11:56 am 
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But within reach for the average USA citizen?

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PostPosted: September 4th, 2008, 12:03 pm 
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Hardly, and it's getting more and more expensive b/c so much of the cost is fuel.

Don't forget there are almost 10 times the number of Americans as Canadians.

I'm more surprised by the Germans - they're EVERYWHERE and always on vacation. :)


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PostPosted: September 5th, 2008, 9:39 am 
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I read once that Germans are the most travelled of all nations in the world.

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PostPosted: September 5th, 2008, 3:19 pm 
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Lots of Germans on the Nahanni with us this summer......

You could tell the Germans right away...they were the naked ones !!! :o :o :o

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PostPosted: September 5th, 2008, 5:39 pm 
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We ran into a lovely German couple on the Horton - only people we saw in 20 days.

These far north trips are getting very very expensive and they certainly are not within reach of the average US citizen. In fact, I have come to the conclusion that I may not ever be able to go back to the land which is very upsetting. I have not given up totally - but it doesn't look good. Of course I say that after paddling one of the most expensive trips you can find unless you go off the continent.

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PostPosted: September 7th, 2008, 6:10 pm 
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Watersong wrote:
You could tell the Germans right away...they were the naked ones !!! :o :o :o

Well I'm only one fourth German, but the last few weeks in Quebec sure were great for naked paddling, swimming, and camping. :D

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PostPosted: September 7th, 2008, 7:55 pm 
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You wouldn't want to see my crew naked - scary.

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PostPosted: September 8th, 2008, 12:28 pm 
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Often it is not the cost but the priority that the individual attaches to northern Canadian canoe trips. In general, northern Canadian canoeing is expensive for any nation's average citizen.
I hope people will continue to respect the Canadian north.

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PostPosted: September 8th, 2008, 4:21 pm 
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Paddle Power wrote:
I hope people will continue to respect the Canadian north.


Don't we all. I think the worry is corporate interests, not individuals. There are an awful lot of natural resources up there and access is getting easier and easier. I worry about it. I feel so privileged to have been able to spend time there. I think of it every day.

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PostPosted: September 8th, 2008, 4:46 pm 
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Traveling anywhere in the great white north is expensive. Part of it has to be the relatively small number of visitors, long distances in small scale modes of transportation, and short seasons. I spend far more going to Alaska than Hawaii, and I've been to both several times in the last few years. They can package you up with a hotel and put you on a jumbo to Hawaii pretty cheap.

These operators need to pay back a large capital investment in a short season. Have any idea what a Beaver sets you back nowadays :doh: My dream was to get a small float plane after I finish my pilot's license. Unless I strike oil in my backyard, that's never gonna happen.

All that said, where there's a will, there's often a way. What are you willing to sacrifice to go on your dream trip?

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PostPosted: September 9th, 2008, 1:10 pm 
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I believe one of the main keys to protecting and respecting the north is to pass on our love to future generations. After all, the corporate world is made up of individuals.

Re what a Beaver sets you back nowadays...more and more, much more than the average citizen has to spend.

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PostPosted: September 9th, 2008, 1:31 pm 
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Yea, it is important that we pass on our love of the land. But, unfortunately, we are small in numbers and the push for natural resources to provide for the masses will almost certainly prevail - at least in a democracy like we have in the US and in Canada. I hate to be so pessimistic. But, that is what I fear is going to happen.

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