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PostPosted: January 25th, 2006, 8:25 am 
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I've been reading Patterson's "Dangerous River" and kept coming across the word "snye" to describe some river feature.

Curious, I looked it up in my unabridged Websters Interntional Dictonary. "Snye" wasn't in this 2600 page behemoth; the first word I've tried to find that wasn't.

Is anyone familiar with this word? Does anyone use it?

I did eventually find a definition:

Snye
Pronunciation: (snī), [key]
—n. Canadian (chiefly Ontario).
1. a backwater.
2. a side-channel, esp. one that later rejoins the main stream.
3. a channel joining two rivers.


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2006, 9:34 am 
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Mike,

I've only seen the term in reference to the small channel that created an island where the Athabasca and Clearwater Rivers join. The west end of the channel has been filled so now it's a backwater.

It shows up as 'The Snye' on Canadian Topos, and I think even the locals call it the Snye (but I can't remember for sure). There's a float plane business there, and people go swimming and jet skiing in the backwater.

Here's a map from Google Earth. (Darin can probably point out his neighborhood.)
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I also first saw snye in Paterson's book and looked it up. I did find it in whatever dictionary I have at home.
It is an archaic word and the above description of it is correct - a side channel that creates an island.
I think it's a great word and do use it while canoeing or studying maps.
I also take as many snyes as possible as that is where the fun is - assuming there is enough water in the snye to get through without a lot of dragging.

My favorite side trip via a snye was on the Seal River. There is a huge straightaway that is very wide. We were getting quite bored with it as it went on for miles. Looking at the map, we saw a snye going through off river right. We took it and were in a very nice, intimate, winding stream. I got my camera ready, expecting to see wildlife. We came to a bend and sure enough, we rousted a bull moose up from his slumber in the grasses.
Not more than 5 feet away, I started snapping shots as the moose got up, stretched and ambled off, looking over his shoulder to keep a close watch on us.


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2006, 9:53 am 
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I think it's a great word and do use it while canoeing or studying maps.
I also take as many snyes as possible as that is where the fun is - assuming there is enough water in the snye to get through without a lot of dragging.
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I'll add it to my paddling vocabulary.

One of my constant companions is noted for his penchant for taking the road less traveled in waterway routes; he'll always opt for the small side channel, branching offshoot or slender side of an island. He's a snye kinda guy.

It'll also make a great Scrabble or hangman word, right up there with cwm.


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CWM???


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2006, 10:05 am 
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A steep-walled semicircular basin in a mountain.

It's WElsh or Scottish in origin I think .


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That's usually called a cirque - which is also a good scrabble word.

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That's usually called a cirque - which is also a good scrabble word.

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No, a cwm is not a cirque......... the easiest route up Everest is through the Western Cwm....... its a hanging valley with a steep wall at its face. A cirque is a shorter feature, of the same general shape.

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Is cwm pronounced quim?

And before either of these words is used in scrabble, it's probably a good idea to make sure the dictionary you are using contains thenm as you will be challenged.


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Watersong wrote:
No, a cwm is not a cirque......... the easiest route up Everest is through the Western Cwm....... its a hanging valley with a steep wall at its face.


I never heard of a Cwm, until this thread - that definition sounded like a cirque.

So I wikipediaed cwm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrie

From this definition, it doesn't sound like the everest western Cwm is really a Cwm??


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Hmm, my "Dictionary of Geological Terms" describes Cirque and Corrie as synonyms. Andy's wikipedia definition describes Corrie and CWM as synonyms also.

At worst, a CWM seems to be a specialized type of cirque that almost totally encloses.... forming a bowl..

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Is cwm pronounced quim?

And before either of these words is used in scrabble, it's probably a good idea to make sure the dictionary you are using contains thenm as you will be challenged.

I believe it rhymes with broom.

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Ya - I went to the definition posted above for corrie - coom I think is the pronounce.
But the same definition says cwm is the welsh or scottish defin. for corrie.
Would that disqualify cwm in Canadian scrabble? I know it would in US scrabble.
Or will this question cause a lot of us and them responses?


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Mike, not sure if you noticed - my copy of 'Dangerous River' has a glossary at the end. He defines a snye as a "small channel between island and mainland in a river, or offshoot channel. Backwater."
Pretty close to Webster's definition.


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2006, 7:56 pm 
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Returning to the original question...

Mike McCrea wrote:
...kept coming across the word "snye" to describe some river feature.

Is anyone familiar with this word? Does anyone use it?


I use that word to describe a side channel or a small channel that joins 2 lakes. It's usualy pretty shallow...

I've always heard it prononced has "Shnye" though, but that's probably because us French people always try to make English words sound differently... LOL

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