View topic - Bad news on the Credit River

It is currently December 15th, 2019, 3:47 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: February 21st, 2016, 10:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: June 20th, 2001, 7:00 pm
Posts: 3473
Location: Toronto, Ontario Canada
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/k ... -1.3457930

I don't want to speculate but there are a couple of low head dams not far upstream from this location.

_________________
"What else could I do? I had no trade so I became a peddler" - Lazarus Greenberg 1915


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 6:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: January 27th, 2016, 2:34 pm
Posts: 153
Location: Simcoe County
If this is where i think it is(just south of terra cotta) there are some wild rapids when the water is high. Unbelievably sad news this morning.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 9:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: June 23rd, 2006, 4:25 pm
Posts: 3017
Location: Milton
Gonna agree with Recped and have to wait and see info is a little sketchy
Finding the boats on ice in the river is bad news.
Water temps would be awfully close to freezing.
Too many questions, type of boats, did they have protective gear.
As for grade of white water, the river gauges say the river was far from high, would not have even put the river in the mid range.
That said if there was ice jams and they are moving, it adds a lot of dynamics to the situation. With the type of thaw we had the ice would not have had time to get to the "candle" stage where it breaks up quickly. Stuck in an ice flow is hazardous.
In the late 60's we found a canoe on top of a large ice below Dundas, we tried to use a golf course bridge to get to the other side where the boat was close.
Needless to say the jam moved and the boat disintegrated.

Another possibility is that with the quick thaw the "anchor" ice may have still been attached to the bottom of the river which raises the possibility of becoming entrapped should one exit the boat.

Rapids in the area are CI and barely CII at those levels.
It is always sad when stuff like this happens.

_________________
Choosing to save a river is more often an act of passion than of careful calculation. You make the choice because the river has touched your life in an intimate and irreversible way, because you are unwilling to accept its loss. — (David Bolling, Ho


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 11:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: June 23rd, 2006, 4:25 pm
Posts: 3017
Location: Milton
For those that don't understand how river ice can form and stick to the bottom, it only took a couple of days of low water levels to get over 1m thick during that short cold snap we had.
This at Streetsville park where our slalom used to run starting from the east side looking back at the parking lot.
The open pan shot is that of the soccer fields in the middle of the island, the river bed has frozen and the water has to go some where.
Growing up on the Credit this is where we learned never to trust the river ice, even in the cold.
This is where most paddlers start their river run.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lrXhHcY8s

_________________
Choosing to save a river is more often an act of passion than of careful calculation. You make the choice because the river has touched your life in an intimate and irreversible way, because you are unwilling to accept its loss. — (David Bolling, Ho


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 12:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: January 29th, 2016, 11:43 pm
Posts: 22
Location: Port Credit
This is a little scary to hear, especially given that I'd been contemplating a run down the credit this past weekend, in the exact same area.

My company owns a property at Mississauga Rd & King street and I'd scouted the river from shore and several bridges nearby - for the most part it looked open with moderate flow. It's obvious there's still a danger of ice and strainers, but it didn't look overwhelmingly perilous. I hope they come out with some more details as the investigation moves forward.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... yaks-found

_________________

http://www.tohellandback.net



Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 1:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: June 23rd, 2006, 4:25 pm
Posts: 3017
Location: Milton
New pics up shows the kayaks and the river iced over at the scene.
http://www.caledonenterprise.com/news-s ... g-kayaker/

Jeff

_________________
Choosing to save a river is more often an act of passion than of careful calculation. You make the choice because the river has touched your life in an intimate and irreversible way, because you are unwilling to accept its loss. — (David Bolling, Ho


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 1:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: August 2nd, 2011, 10:59 am
Posts: 91
Location: Ontario
I know we all want to get out and paddle... but it doesn't end well for at least 1 or 2 people per year. Best to just wait it out in my opinion.

Live to paddle another day.

_________________
ManCamping.ca - Paddle Far, Push Your Limits.

Website: http://www.ManCamping.ca
Instagram: http://instagram.com/man_camping


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 1:27 pm 
Offline
CCR Assistant Administrator
User avatar

Joined: January 20th, 2003, 7:00 pm
Posts: 12090
Location: Simcoe County, Ontario
merging a new thread with the existing one.


Barbara

_________________
I'm out of bed and I made it to the keyboard....what more do you want?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 2:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: June 23rd, 2006, 4:25 pm
Posts: 3017
Location: Milton
Edit: Guelph University students
http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/guelph-stud ... -1.2788061

Some local Ontario paddlers have said the boats are Pelican storms.

Jeff

Just in case someone is interested in developing their skills to help avoid situations like this, ask some questions in the "moving water" forum.
No sense in second guessing here the whole story will eventually appear.
That way your questions can be answered directly.

_________________
Choosing to save a river is more often an act of passion than of careful calculation. You make the choice because the river has touched your life in an intimate and irreversible way, because you are unwilling to accept its loss. — (David Bolling, Ho


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 9:04 pm 
Offline
CCR Assistant Administrator
User avatar

Joined: January 20th, 2003, 7:00 pm
Posts: 12090
Location: Simcoe County, Ontario
Dead and missing kayakers found in Caledon identified as University of Guelph students
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/k ... -1.3458570

Quote:
Two kayakers involved in a fatal accident in Caledon Sunday have been identified as Kaya Firth and Zach Sutherland, according to a release from the University of Guelph.

_________________
I'm out of bed and I made it to the keyboard....what more do you want?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 9:56 pm 
Offline
CCR Assistant Administrator
User avatar

Joined: January 20th, 2003, 7:00 pm
Posts: 12090
Location: Simcoe County, Ontario
jedi jeffi wrote:
Just in case someone is interested in developing their skills to help avoid situations like this, ask some questions in the "moving water" forum.
No sense in second guessing here the whole story will eventually appear.
That way your questions can be answered directly.


Can't ask questions about an unknown set of circumstances.


Barbara

_________________
I'm out of bed and I made it to the keyboard....what more do you want?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 10:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: September 13th, 2014, 11:52 am
Posts: 386
Location: Toronto
Such a shame. I grew up next to the headwaters of the Credit and currently live close to where it terminates in Lake Ontario. I don't think a lot of people realize how dangerous this little local river can be. This isn't the first incident this fall/winter, either. I've watched Andrew run sections of it at high water in a playboat and that scared the crap out of me.

_________________
Instagram:
@tear_knee

Website:
thehappyadventure.com

Friends of Temagami:
friendsoftemagami.org


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 10:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 20th, 2003, 9:27 am
Posts: 943
Too sad!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 10:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: June 23rd, 2006, 4:25 pm
Posts: 3017
Location: Milton
Barbara wrote
Quote:
Can't ask questions about an unknown set of circumstances.


But they can ask questions on how to prepare their skill set.
Especially those new to moving water and cold water.
Better to start a new thread.

I found some the statements made to the reporters from the police interesting.

Jeff

_________________
Choosing to save a river is more often an act of passion than of careful calculation. You make the choice because the river has touched your life in an intimate and irreversible way, because you are unwilling to accept its loss. — (David Bolling, Ho


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: February 22nd, 2016, 11:05 pm 
Offline

Joined: April 1st, 2003, 3:45 pm
Posts: 241
Sad news (and strikes home when it's a section that you've paddled numerous times). In terms of the ice raft shot, here's an aerial shot: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/woman-dead-ma ... -1.2787084


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: MSN [Bot] and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group