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PostPosted: March 27th, 2017, 4:57 pm 
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i was just checking the weather network online, and i noticed a short note on hunters finding a frozen cougar out side of thunder bay. there is a short film too. the cougar had quills in it`s shoulder. obvious signs of starvation.
after decades of having the m.n.r. deny that these animals existed here in ontario. there is now physical proof beyond tracks and scat.
perhaps some one could put up the link?


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PostPosted: March 27th, 2017, 6:19 pm 
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CBC: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-b ... -1.4041876

Kenora onLine https://www.kenoraonline.com/local/moun ... hunder-bay


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PostPosted: March 27th, 2017, 6:55 pm 
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A bit of sensationalism and perhaps not a decades old question.
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Date added to the Species at Risk in Ontario List
The Mountain lion (Cougar) was already assessed as endangered when the Endangered Species Act took effect in 2008.

From https://www.ontario.ca/page/mountain-lion-cougar


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PostPosted: March 28th, 2017, 4:33 pm 
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after decades of having the m.n.r. deny that these animals existed here in ontario. there is now physical proof beyond tracks and scat

A group of 89 biologists and wildlife technicians banded together with the Ministry of Natural Resources in 2006 to seek proof of Ontario cougars. Since then, the team has documented more than 30 cases of cougar tracks and droppings.

So I'd say the MNR is aware of cougars in Ontario. There is debate on whether it is a self sustaining population or not.


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PostPosted: March 29th, 2017, 7:54 pm 
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The Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters had a few good articles on this a couple years ago if anyone wants to read up.
Doubt we've anything to worry about they rarely bother people.
I won't mention it to the wife, she's worried enough about the bears, shhh.


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PostPosted: March 29th, 2017, 8:54 pm 
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What's your source of info, DH? link?

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PostPosted: March 30th, 2017, 8:41 am 
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Saw one on a back road near Sudbury in 2010.


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PostPosted: March 30th, 2017, 3:54 pm 
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the URL is a bit untidy but I think the link will work:

http://www.easterncougar.org/pdfs/Cougar%20evidence%20in%20Ontario%20CFN%202011%20125%20(2)%20116-125rosatte.pdf


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Study Area and Methods
In 2006, a Cougar research network led by the author
was established in Ontario. The network consisted of
89 biologists and wildlife technicians, primarily from
the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources (OMNR).
The purpose of the network was to compile reports of
Cougar sightings received by OMNR offices, to gather
physical evidence with which to corroborate credible
observations, where possible, and to collaborate on
the design and implementation of an Ontario Cougar
research program


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PostPosted: April 1st, 2017, 7:53 am 
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Another link to the MNR published article from 2011 confirming evidence of cougars in Ontario:

http://www.canadianfieldnaturalist.ca/index.php/cfn/article/view/1194/1187


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PostPosted: April 1st, 2017, 7:10 pm 
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My uncle once said he saw one dead in a tree in Thunder Bay while moose hunting. He was never a man to make up stories but i had my doubts. Well that settles that i suppose!


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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2017, 12:18 pm 
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A friend's trail cam recorded this about 2 yrs ago near Orillia.


:o :( :oops: :tsk:


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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2017, 12:47 pm 
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open_side_up wrote: A friend's trail cam recorded this about 2 yrs ago near Orillia.


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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2017, 4:37 pm 
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Sorry, looks like I got burned. :oops: :oops: :oops:


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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2017, 8:44 pm 
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This reminds me of a dead mountain lion which I found while hunting near my home in Western Montana in 2011. I was sneaking up a ridge when I saw a bird fly up from a tuft of hair in the snow. I walked over to check it out, and found a snow-covered animal with a small area eaten, and some intestines pulled out.

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I assumed it was a deer, and bent over to brush the snow off its head to see what kind of deer it was. As soon as I touched the head, I knew it wasn’t a deer! I brushed the snow off the animal, and found that it was a fairly large male mountain lion. What I thought was a stick under the snow was its tail.

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Here it is with my hunting companion for scale.

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When I stopped at a game check station on the way home, I showed the pictures to the game biologist for the area. He told me that it looked like a mountain lion which had been killed by another mountain lion. He had written a paper on the subject of mountain lions and bobcats which had been killed by mountain lions, and said that the small amount of the animal which had been eaten was typical of lion-on-lion kills. He pointed out that because the lion had died from non-human causes, I could go back and recover it.

I hiked back to the lion a couple of days later. I was pretty cautious, knowing that there was a mountain lion in the area which was tough enough to kill a large male mountain lion. The lion hadn’t been disturbed, which surprised me because there was a pack of wolves which was active in the area. I cut off its head, brought it out, and had the skull cleaned off by dermestid beetles. Here is our cat Sherman with the skull, looking pretty unimpressed by it. Sadly, he was killed by a mountain lion outside our house a couple of years later.

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Here is the lion skull on the left, with the skull of a bear I shot and two skunk skulls I had found.

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I have had several close encounters with live mountain lions, including one instance in which a mountain lion dragged off a deer I had shot and ate one front quarter, and I found the deer and stole it back. We routinely see lion tracks and lion kills near our cabin.


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PostPosted: April 4th, 2017, 9:03 am 
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Pete, thanks for sharing your story and photos. If I'm not mistaken, your kayak fishing and hunting photos attest to the obvious: you're living the dream up there in the beautiful northwest. Thanks for sharing.


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