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PostPosted: January 11th, 2014, 12:02 pm 
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I do have far too much time on my hands, but I do like crunching numbers like this in my spare time.

My apologies since I don't know different manufacturers much. Also, it didn't transfer from Word to here very well.

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Manufacturer QTY

Bell

Magic 4
Wildfire 4
Flashfire 1
Merlin II 1
Rob Roy 1

Blackhawk
Ariel 1

Bluehole
Sunburst 1
Sunburst II 1

Bluewater
Freedom Tripper 17 1
Mist 1
Splitrock 1

Chestnut
Chum 1
Fox 2
Pal 1

Clipper
Prospector 1
Viper 12 1

Colden
Flashfire 1
Dragonfly 2

Curtis
Nomad 1

Dagger
Caper 1
Encore 1
Prophet 1
Ocoee 1
Cascade 2
Atom 1
Genesis 1
Ovation 1
Impulse 3


Esquif
Taureau 1
L'Edge 3
Pocket Canyon 1
Spark 1
Vertige 2
Spanish Fly 1

H20
Solo 16 1

Hellman
Solitude 1
Prospector 1

Hemlock
SRT 2
Kestrel 2
Shaman 1
Peregrine 1

Loon Works
Nakoma w/d 2
Aria 1

Mad River
Outrage 3
Synergy 1
Guide 2
Caption 1
Rampage 1
Twister 1
Traveler 1
Monarch 1
Explorer 1
Independence 2
Malecite 1
Freedom Solo 1
Explorer 1

Millbrook
Souhegan 1

Mohawk
Odyssey 1
Viper II 1
Solo 13 1

Nova Craft
Pal 3
Supernova 2
Prospector 1
Bob's 1

Old Town
Sockeye 1

Pakboats/Pakcanoe
140 1
150 1
Puffin's 3

Peterborough
Huron 1

Placid
Flashfire 1
Rapidfire 2

Sawyer
Loon 1
Summersong 1
Mist 1

Scott
Elite 14 1

Swift
Winisk 1
Raven 8
Heron 1
Shearwater 4
Dumoine 1
Osprey 4

Wenonah
Wilderness 3
WWC1 1
Argosy 1
Canak 1
Voyager 2
Prospector 1


Cedar Strip
Osprey 1
Kite 1
Raven 1
Wilderness Express 1

Miscellaneous
Wavesport Project 62 1
Necky Chatham 1
Necky Eliza 1
Rocky Mountain Cruiser 1
Whitesell Piranha 1
Perception HD-1 1
Phoenix Vagabond 1
Wilderness Systems Pamlico 1

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PostPosted: January 11th, 2014, 2:12 pm 
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And now we have the Bell Phoenix..just learned of it today. I don't suppose anyone has seen one much less paddle or own one.


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PostPosted: January 11th, 2014, 3:26 pm 
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Google it... from the Quietjourney forum

The Phoenix is based off the Wildfire design, stretched with more volume and asymmetrical rocker.

Phoenix
Length: 14'6"
Width: 27" gunwale, 30" max, 26.5" waterline
Sheer: 18.5" bow, 12.5" mid ship, 16.5" stern
Rocker: 2.5" bow, 1.5" stern.


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PostPosted: January 11th, 2014, 5:59 pm 
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Mihun09 wrote:
Google it... from the Quietjourney forum

The Phoenix is based off the Wildfire design, stretched with more volume and asymmetrical rocker.

Phoenix
Length: 14'6"
Width: 27" gunwale, 30" max, 26.5" waterline
Sheer: 18.5" bow, 12.5" mid ship, 16.5" stern
Rocker: 2.5" bow, 1.5" stern.


WildFire has 2.5 inches of symmetrical rocker.

Better phrased as perhaps a more voluminous Yellowstone Solo. Of course all canoe designs start somewhere but the WF is a way back in that evolution.


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PostPosted: January 18th, 2014, 2:11 pm 
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I have a question for the solo group. I have paddled tandem canoes on solo trips many times over the years, but have never tried a solo boat. I built a Pygmy sea kayak that was a solo boat, but the beam was less than 25 inches and it always seemed really tender. Is there really some magic in solo boats?


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PostPosted: January 18th, 2014, 2:48 pm 
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ppine wrote:
I have a question for the solo group. I have paddled tandem canoes on solo trips many times over the years, but have never tried a solo boat. I built a Pygmy sea kayak that was a solo boat, but the beam was less than 25 inches and it always seemed really tender. Is there really some magic in solo boats?


I think so. Small solos are quite responsive and as you sit in the middle the ends are buoyant and ride very well over waves. Moreover you have control over both bow and stern end rather than steering more than from one end.

Narrow means you can do cross strokes easily. A higher length to width ratio than found in tandems means that with a person power of 1 you can drive the hull quite a bit faster than solo in a tandem canoe.

Beams of solo canoes can go from 24 -30 inches. Sea kayaks typically 21-24. You get used to the narrower width. Mostly its about keeping your head within the gunwales and also not focusing on how much water and how little boat you have in front of you.

The real magic comes when you carry a 20-30 lb boat on a portage. You don't feel so squashed.


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PostPosted: January 20th, 2014, 7:42 pm 
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I picked up a Bell Rockstar late last month for my new solo ride. Come on soft water season.

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PostPosted: January 20th, 2014, 10:36 pm 
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Souris River - Tranquility
*huh?*
Well I'm not sure where that came from as I certainly didn't post it nor do I own a Tranquility! I do have an Rx Argosy.

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PostPosted: January 25th, 2014, 3:16 am 
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I rigged a 16'6'' Evergreen Starburst for solo. (same hull as the Nova Craft Moisie)
It's big but it handles beautifully. Weathervaning is a problem but a few rocks in the bow usually solve it.
I raised the existing seats and the air bags come under them. I put a new seat a couple feet back from the yoke. There's a huge cargo area forward of the yoke and space behind the seat for a bit more.
The huge amounts of air means I can literally climb in and out of it in class III wave trains. The big volume means I stay dry running the IIIs with hundreds of pounds of gear if I want.

I'm getting an Ocoee this year for solo play. I could still load some gear in it for a weekend trip too.


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PostPosted: January 28th, 2014, 11:02 pm 
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Supernova.

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PostPosted: March 21st, 2014, 5:17 pm 
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Delta 16' and a yoke I designed and built myself. I'm sure I not the only person tripping deep into the Algonquin interior in a sea kayak, but aside from those I've talked into joining me in my obsession, I've never seen one!

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PostPosted: March 22nd, 2014, 1:33 pm 
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Uppa wrote:
(...) I'm sure I not the only person tripping deep into the Algonquin interior in a sea kayak, (...)
I started tripping solo in Algonquin with my kayak, 15.5ft Current Design Whistler (the original design), and a sturdy big-wheeled cart. I can't say that I went "deep" into the Park, but well-planned multi-day routes are possible: Lake of Two Rivers campgrounds to Pen Lake is great in kayak, so is circumnavigating Opeongo! Large lakes call for kayaks 8)


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PostPosted: April 25th, 2014, 3:48 pm 
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Sold my awesome looking H2O Solo 16 last year. I recently grabbed a very used Wenonah Advantage. I like the bucket seat and foot bar, plus the hull is already scratched up so I don't cry when I bump into things.


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PostPosted: May 6th, 2014, 11:42 pm 
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I'm rather new to kayaking. This is only my 3rd summer kayaking in Canada. I've been in a plastic recreation boat with lots of storage but wore it out as evidenced by holes showing up at the least convenient time. I vowed in December 2013, after a dangerous mishap in my old boat (I do short winter trips) to get an expedition grade boat.
5 months later and I'm now in a Long Haul Mark I expedition kayak. So far so good. Still learning it. It's a lot different.
This summer, I'll hopefully be in Wabakimi a solo trip and then Lake Superior PP also. Of course lots of local trips too here in Indiana and Michigan.
Another reason for the significant upgrade was due to the wind conditions so often encountered. Now, I have a boat capable of crossing an open lake (such as Big Caribou by Wabakimi) when it's relatively windy.
I'll post some pics very soon.


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PostPosted: February 7th, 2015, 6:10 pm 
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Here is my updated fleet:

Old Town Discovery 15'8"
Esquif Pocket Canyon
Dagger Genesis
Mohawk Probe 13
Mad River Caption
Hellman Scout


The Old Town is tandem outfitted but I only ever paddle it solo when I have both dogs with me.

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