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PostPosted: December 13th, 2007, 1:56 pm 
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Hi All,

Another dam project is being proposed/planned at the Timmins Grassy River High Falls area - a dam generating between 0.5 and 4 megawatts

Looking for support to help block this project that will shutdown another canoeing area

For more info visit http://grassyriver.blogspot.com/

Thanks & Best Regards
Markus


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PostPosted: December 14th, 2007, 6:52 am 
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KamRunner wrote:
Hi All,

Another dam project is being proposed/planned at the Timmins Grassy River High Falls area - a dam generating between 0.5 and 4 megawatts

Looking for support to help block this project that will shutdown another canoeing area

For more info visit http://grassyriver.blogspot.com/

Thanks & Best Regards
Markus


Markus

Feel free to PM me. You can count on my support and assistance and lobbying..

It would be helpful and informative to all, if you could post a map or link to
a map, so folks here could see where this is situated, and the extent of the
river which will be damaged.

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Sundown


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PostPosted: December 14th, 2007, 8:42 am 
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Hi,



Here is a link to a google map showing the area of the proposed dam



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Markus


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PostPosted: December 20th, 2007, 1:00 pm 
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Just a Bump for Grant and Markus in the Grassy River Cause.

See also: www.nastawgan.ca/?P=30

Or News Brief over at www.Ottertooth.com

Remember to add support Comments on Grant's Blogspot.

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Sundown


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PostPosted: December 21st, 2007, 10:24 am 
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Thanks for the bump Sundown

Nice to see the city standing up for what i've always felt - bring existing dams up to full potential before creating new ones

Now if they could only get some sort of agreement with splitting revenue from these dams we could get some tax relief at the same time if not hydro price relief

http://www.timminspress.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=824027&auth=Keith+Lacey

http://grassyriver.blogspot.com/
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Markus


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PostPosted: December 21st, 2007, 10:43 am 
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Kamrunner

No Problem

It is wonderful to see Mike Doody remains Mike Doody.
He was, when I knew him 20 years ago, a Man of Integrity, and loyal to the
Northern Way of Being.

Timmins Taxes... guess a lot more hasnt changed, eh?

The Mattagami River... like so many rivers dammed.... or damned.

I just Really Wonder sometimes if the Average Joe or Jill who maintains their
Parents or Ancestors Gravesite every year, really even knows how many
Anishnabai Gravesites and Sacred Sites once lay beside the Sound of Rushing Water...

and now lie beneath the Cold Surface of Wanton Development?

The numbers would astound you.

What if You, as I, had to Paddle an unswimmable distance from shore,
just to lay your flowers o'er the Resting Places of Your Ancestors?

Leave the Sound of Rushing Water, at least, to their Peace.

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Sundown


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PostPosted: December 22nd, 2007, 7:55 am 
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KamRunner wrote:
Hi All,

Another dam project is being proposed/planned at the Timmins Grassy River High Falls area - a dam generating between 0.5 and 4 megawatts

Looking for support to help block this project that will shutdown another canoeing area

For more info visit http://grassyriver.blogspot.com/

Thanks & Best Regards
Markus


Good Morning All

I would just like to ask Folks if they could add their comments to assist Markus
and Grant with input on this Issue.

If you haven't been to High Falls, perhaps reference your comments as if this project
were being considered at Your Favourite Waterfall.

How would you feel, or what would your comment/position be if this project
would eliminate Hogs Back, or Franks Falls, Helen Falls, Centre Falls, Caribou Falls, Bridal Veil...
or some Regional Beauty or Cultural/Heritage Falls in your neck of the woods?

I would really find your comments informative, and I am sure Markus and
Grant would find the input invaluable. We would all benefit greatly from your thoughts.

You can also leave comments at www.nastawgan.ca

Regards

Sundown and Lilydipper


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PostPosted: January 13th, 2008, 10:45 am 
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KamRunner wrote:
Hi All,

Another dam project is being proposed/planned at the Timmins Grassy River High Falls area - a dam generating between 0.5 and 4 megawatts

Looking for support to help block this project that will shutdown another canoeing area

For more info visit http://grassyriver.blogspot.com/

Thanks & Best Regards
Markus


See Also www.owa.ca/pdfs/news/Waterpower_Potential_Nov2005.pdf

This is a long document, but it contains a huge database for all Hydro Projects
being contemplated within Ontario.

No doubt, some river you paddle and presently enjoy is on that list.

The report also states that the maximum viable transmission distance for
1-5M Projects is only 5-10kms.

The Grassy Project is known to have a variable contemplated potential of only
0.5 to 4M

This is a project that was nonsensical from the outset.

There is a Public Consultation Meeting in Timmins Tomorrow...
Please take a moment today to make a comment on the Grassy Blogspot
or at www.friendsoftemagami.org
or www.nastawgan.ca

Regards

Sundown


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 Post subject: Just a quick update
PostPosted: January 21st, 2008, 12:03 pm 
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Good Morning All,

Important Meeting Regarding Grassy River High Falls on Feb 6th

See the blog for more details

http://grassyriver.blogspot.com

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Markus


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 Post subject: A Shot of High Falls
PostPosted: January 21st, 2008, 9:47 pm 
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Hi All,

Three of us braved the cold (-36C) on Sunday Jan 20th to get some shots of the falls - we weren't disappointed at all

I can't believe how much water is flowing for this time of year

Here's one panorama of the excursion - more shots available on the blog at

http://grassyriver.blogspot.com

Regards
Markus


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PostPosted: January 22nd, 2008, 5:18 am 
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Hi Kamrunner

To the Victor, the spoils... well worth battling the conditions, I see !!!
Great Shot Markus... simply fabulous :clap:

You folks had that huge January melt a few days ago, and
that probably explains the abnormal volume, I imagine.

Good Luck with your meeting on February 6th...

It would be a shame to have High Falls dammed, and lose shots like this one.

Regards

Sundown


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PostPosted: January 22nd, 2008, 7:12 am 
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Thanks for the comments Sundown

Although the picture looks nice, it has to be seen to really be appreciated - even though it was cold as heck, the scenery was absolutely beautiful

In regards to the flow i think your right about the melt but also i think it's OPG's dam upstream that's prepping for spring melt - don't want to get caught off guard and flood Timmins like they did a few years back

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Markus


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PostPosted: January 22nd, 2008, 8:43 am 
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Beautiful shot. Only a two hour drive, makes me want to go up there. Mind taking me in for a boo?

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 Post subject: High Falls area
PostPosted: January 22nd, 2008, 11:18 am 
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The pictures of the High Falls bring back really fond memories of moose hunting and fishing on the Grassy river above High Falls. As Archie Bunker said,"those were the days". Over 50 yrs. ago... time flies when you are having fun.

As for the issue at hand, I doubt that there is sufficient volume of water flow on the Grassy to justify a generating station at that site. The volume of water would be a little less than the Rideau river or the Don river in Toronto.

The engineers at OPG should try a little harder to develop electricity in other ways (wind, solar etc.) and have these projects closer to the consumer. That would eliminate long, ugly transmission lines out of pristine wilderness areas.


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Hi Curly

Thanks for the comments - i could show you a map on how to get there(at least the easiest way i know of)

Regards
Markus


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