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Author:  JF [ September 29th, 2012, 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Capilano Salmon Massacre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuseR1aYsDc

Keepers of the land?
Not here in this case.

Author:  kinguq [ September 29th, 2012, 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Capilano Salmon Massacre

Not sure what the issue is here. They are catching fish. So what?

Do you have objections to the methods they are using?

Is there a conservation issue you are trying to point out?

Are you against catching fish on principle?

Need some more detail I'm afraid...

Kinguq.

Author:  Erhard [ September 29th, 2012, 9:22 am ]
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JF, an interesting video of traditional fishing - so that's how they caught salmon in the past, your ancestors and mine, and a whole bunch of other cultures too.

In the above post, Kinguq shows us how to catch a red herring, today... :lol:

Author:  JF [ September 29th, 2012, 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Capilano Salmon Massacre

Erhart, let's just leave it that your idea of traditional practices (and responsible use of the resources) are somewhat different than mine.

Author:  Erhard [ September 29th, 2012, 10:10 am ]
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Quote:
...let's just leave it that your idea of traditional practices (and responsible use of the resources) are somewhat different than mine.

Now that we got that out of the way, would you care to answer K's question:
Quote:
Do you have objections to the methods they are using?

Is there a conservation issue you are trying to point out?

Are you against catching fish on principle?

Need some more detail I'm afraid...

Author:  CLofchik [ September 30th, 2012, 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Capilano Salmon Massacre

Heh, doesn't look that different than the salmon run on Bronte Creek!

Well......atleast they're using shopping carts instead of gill nets.

Author:  yarnellboat [ September 30th, 2012, 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Capilano Salmon Massacre

Not easy to watch if you're looking for negatives. Great to see community members coming together to practice their traditions on a resource that they are so culturally connected to depedent upon if you're looking for positives.

Either way the Devil is in the details - Is there a conservation issue? How will the fish be used, was it part of a larger community event? Etc.

Without knowing those details, our comments/opinions aren't worth much and we should probably mind our own business. Literally, we should worry more about whether the food we purchase comes from sustainable practices - what kind of slamon do we buy - and worry less about what's going on an Indian reserve we know nothing about.

Me, I'll chose to see the positives - I assume that salmon run is healthy and that the community benefits in a number ways by keeping its members engaged with the river and the salmon and working together as they've done for many generations.

Very nice river to paddle by the way, as long you don't paddle over their fish structures at the take-out, they don't appreciate that.

Canoeing it:
https://picasaweb.google.com/vanc.yarne ... rCanoeing#

Pat.

Author:  Hiker Neil [ September 30th, 2012, 3:17 pm ]
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I think someone should call Brigitte Bardot.

Author:  wotrock [ October 9th, 2012, 8:32 pm ]
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That's not the real threat to our fisheries. Industrial size fishing ops using such means as dragnets('Otter trawlers") that not only scoop up the fish but disrupt the habitat, and gillnets set on the spawning areas are the real threat to the fishery.

Author:  yarnellboat [ October 10th, 2012, 1:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Capilano Salmon Massacre

If you want to know more about that community, you could look on the webpages of the Squamish Nation and find these community notices about the distribution of food fish to the Elders....

http://www.squamish.net/community/commu ... etters.htm

From looking at DFO info about the hatchery on the Cap, the food and ceremonial fishery for Squamish Nation is a big part of its purpose.

Yeah, it's not a nice video if you don't like seeing fish getting bonked and stomped, but there's a lot more to it than that.

Pat.

Author:  lost_patrol [ January 29th, 2013, 11:42 pm ]
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Dead salmon are dead salmon. They don't know or care who killed them.

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