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Author:  frozentripper [ September 9th, 2013, 10:38 am ]
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Can't be a good thing if the affluent nations are to lead the way by setting the example when it comes to getting the world off fossil fuels. Australia has some of the world's highest living standards and if anybody has the economic capacity to reduce carbon, they do... if the Australian voters don't want to, what's the message being sent other nations?

Meanwhile Canada is promising emissions reductions if only America approves the Keystone pipeline, please use our oil, this makes tar sands oil more acceptable. So what happens if the oil ends up being sold to China, does that mean <cough> no carbon reductions are needed... America's decision on Keystone has been put off until sometime next year.

Australian carbon tax to be repealed by incoming conservative government

Rod McGuirk

The Associated Press

Published Sunday, Sep. 08 2013, 9:17 AM EDT

Australia’s new government prepared to take control of the nation Sunday, with Prime Minister-elect Tony Abbott vowing to immediately scrap a hated tax on carbon polluters and implement a controversial plan to stop asylum seekers from reaching the nation’s shores.

Abbott met with bureaucrats to go over his border security plans and said his first priority would be to repeal the deeply unpopular carbon tax on Australia’s biggest industrial polluters.

Abbott’s conservative Liberal party-led coalition won a crushing victory in elections Saturday against the centre-left Labor Party, which had ruled for six years, including during the turbulent global financial crisis. Labor was ultimately doomed by years of party instability and bickering, and by its decision to renege on an election promise by implementing the carbon tax, which many Australians blame for steep increases in their power bills.

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Author:  ezwater [ September 9th, 2013, 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Australia to scrap "hated" carbon tax

As long as we have quasi-democracies, voters are likely to monkey wrench environmental measures that hit them hard financially. Often the best we can do is trim down hidden subsidies. Sometimes the equivalent of a carbon tax can be hidden so it doesn't cause too strong a reaction.

Of course, "Reality" will escalate direct and indirect costs of burning fossil fuel, without any need for governments to intervene.

Author:  Splake [ September 10th, 2013, 5:21 pm ]
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This is a good move. A carbon tax does nothing to "wean the world off fossil fuels". As you said, Australia already has the ability to invest in alternatives. Investment is the constructive approach. Carbon tax discussions have always been about punishment and have never been about investment.

Kind of like punishing a struggling student for having a lot of homework rather than investing in a tutor to help them improve.

Author:  frozentripper [ September 11th, 2013, 7:21 am ]
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I'm not sure how effective a carbon tax would be either, since it passes on the costs to the consumer and if demand stays high, fossil fuels still will be used. In theory, it should provide incentives for alternative energy.

Australia's new, potentially $20-trillion shale oil find may also have had influence, maybe with the oil lobby, since shale oil will be expensive oil and adding on more carbon tax cost won't help development if those reserves take off... although, still early days.

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