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PostPosted: October 8th, 2015, 8:52 pm 
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It's an old news but I have missed it back there.

According to: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/27040/did-canada-go-from-2-5-million-protected-lakes-and-rivers-to-just-159?utm_content=buffer18541&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

1882 Navigable Water Protection Act.

The original Navigable Waters Protection Act protected the lakes from any construction that might interfered with navigation of any body of water in Canada. This included dams, bridges and other blockages to transportation popping up without the government’s approval. Now, such government approval is not needed.

The new industry-friendly Navigable Protection Act was launched in 2012 and eliminated these protections for the vast majority of water bodies in Canada.


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PostPosted: October 8th, 2015, 9:52 pm 
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Where's the like icon.... :clap: :clap: :clap:
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PostPosted: October 8th, 2015, 10:41 pm 
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How any environmentally inclined Canadian could vote for this corporate puppet is beyond me....

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 9:51 am 
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I'm pretty certain that this is not the place to air such grievances, especially this close to an election.

From the forum rules of behaviour:
"2) Discussing religion or sex is not allowed under any circumstances. Other hot button topics, such as politics, will be closely monitored and will be on a short leash."


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 9:57 am 
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Sorry Realstone but I disagree, the unfortunate thing about discussing it on this forum is that everyone on here is on board with protecting the environment...at least they should be if they canoe. Stuff like this needs to spread elsewhere to the uninformed.

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 10:15 am 
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My most incorrect grievance made in a moment lordering on bunacy... er, bordering on lunacy.

IIRC those godless commies, the NDP, were making noises on restoring the NWPA to it's former state. Platforms are being made public soon, maybe today, and maybe there will be something specific there.

Dr. David Suzuki called Mr. Trudeau a "twerp" in a heated telephone exchange with Mr. Trudeau also firing back with some namecalling and Dr. Suzuki subsequently refused to endorse him since it seems all Mr. Trudeau was interested in was politics and votes. Mr. Trudeau does seem to be able to paddle a canoe, though, or at least he was photographed paddling a canoe.

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 10:53 am 
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Thought I'd left out the moneygrubbing conservatives, didn't you...

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On May 15, 2014, Prime Minister Stephen Harper launched the National Conservation Plan (NCP), which will provide a more coordinated approach to conservation efforts across the country with an emphasis on enabling Canadians to conserve and restore lands and waters in and around their communities, and making it easier for citizens living in cities to connect with nature.

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Building on the conservation measures announced in Budget 2014, the National Conservation Plan includes funding of $252 million, primarily over a five-year period (2014 to 2019) for a variety of conservation initiatives:

$100 million over five years to the Nature Conservancy of Canada to secure ecologically sensitive lands;

$37 million over five years to strengthen marine and coastal conservation;

$3.2 million over five years to support the development of a complete national inventory of conserved areas in Canada;

$50 million over five years to restore wetlands;

50 million over five years to support voluntary actions to restore and conserve species and their habitats;

$9.2 million over five years to connect urban Canadians to nature;

$3 million over three years to Earth Rangers to expand family-oriented conservation programming.






http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2014/05/15/nat ... ation-plan

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 11:13 am 
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Nothing specific on the NWPA in the NDP platform... see p51 Parks and Water... mostly general statements, specific statements do not include NWPA.

http://xfer.ndp.ca/2015/2015-Full-Platform-EN-PRINT.pdf

Well, at least they acknowledge water exists, that's something.

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 11:30 am 
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Woohoo! HOLY MOLEY! The NWPA is mentioned in the Liberal's platform, p42... also camping, and more! Much more than the NDP!

https://www.liberal.ca/files/2015/10/Ne ... -class.pdf



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Stephen Harper’s changes to the Fisheries Act, and his elimination of the Navigable Waters Protection Act, have weakened environmental protections. We will review these changes, restore lost protections, and incorporate more modern safeguards.



p44...

We will make it more affordable for more Canadians to visit and appreciate our National Parks.

• In 2017, the 150th anniversary of Confederation, admission for all visitors to National Parks will be free.

• Beginning in 2018, admission for children under 18 will be free, and any adult who has become a Canadian citizen in the previous 12 months will be given one year’s free admission.

• Through an expanded Learn to Camp program, more low- and middle-income families will have an opportunity to experience Canada’s outdoors.


To protect ecosystems and species at risk, we will invest $25 million each year to develop Canada’s National Parks system, as well as manage and expand National Wildlife Areas and Migratory Bird Sanctuaries.

We will protect our National Parks by limiting development within them, and where possible, we will work with nearby communities to help grow local eco-tourism industries and create jobs.

We will reverse Stephen Harper’s cuts to Parks Canada, which cut more than $25 million from programs and services, and made it more difficult for Canadians to experience our National Parks and learn more about our environment and our heritage.

We will work with the Ontario government to create the country’s first urban National Park – Rouge National Park – including improved legislation to protect this important ecosystem and guide how the park will be managed.


Damn... does this mean I'm voting for that twerp Trudeau? Maybe it does, maybe it does.... don't have to decide today, anyway. Promises, promises...

What, waste my vote, voting Green?

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 12:54 pm 
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I will never forgive those Liberal gun grabber.


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 2:08 pm 
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In the Vice Town Hall meeting with Trudeau, he also pledged to create 5000 new jobs through Parks Canada.

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 4:20 pm 
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I've moved this thread to the "Environmental Issues" forum, where the other threads about this are located.


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 8:24 pm 
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In fairness, I think it is worth pointing out (as noted in the link provided in the original post) that the definition of "protected" in the claim is very specific. The Harper Government did remove protection of "navigation" for all bodies of water in Canada. These bodies were formerly protected by the 1882 Navigable Water Protection Act. As also noted, the protections of "navigation" differ from the protections against environmental impact.

The report concludes that all the lakes and rivers will be protected by the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, the Species at Risk Act, and the Fisheries Act but not by 1882 old Navigable Water Protection Act which required approval for any works that may affect navigation on navigable waters in Canada (with the exception of 159 lakes/rivers and 3 oceans).


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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 9:16 pm 
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hmm. Not much of protection there. I am disappointed...

Canadian Environmental Protection Act (good enough to tell us you can't dump chemicals. alright)
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The Canadian Environmental Protection Act, 1999 is an Act of the Parliament of Canada, whose goal is to contribute to sustainable development through pollution prevention and to protect the environment, human life and health from the risks associated with toxic substances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_ ... _Act,_1999

Species at Risk Act
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The Bottom Line
Weak legislation, loopholes, lack of funding, poor habitat protection, political interference and poor implementation leaves Canada's rich wildlife with poor protection.

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/issues/wildl ... -risk-act/

Fisheries Act
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The Fisheries department said in an e-mail this week that it is still focusing on preserving fish habitat but “is adopting a practical, common-sense approach that focuses on managing threats to Canada’s recreational, commercial and aboriginal fisheries and the fish and fish habitat on which they depend.”

But critics said it is clear that the government has allowed industry to write the law. “What we see here is a government listening only to industry concerns,” said Andrew Gage of West Coast Environmental Law, one of the environmental groups that were consulted by the DFO before the law was rewritten. “When laws are written to pander to particular industries, Canadians get weak environmental laws, and weak protection for our fish.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e13606358/

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PostPosted: October 9th, 2015, 11:44 pm 
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Erhard, my point was that the original post (and the NDP claim) implied that all environmental protective measures have been eliminated. That is clearly not the case. Are more federal protective measures required than currently covered in those three Acts after recent changes (not to mention any existing provincial legal requirements)?

Perhaps, and especially with the big ticket projects related to pipelines and hydro. But in my limited experience with the NWPA in the forest industry, there sure were some efficiencies that needed to be made.


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