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PostPosted: September 4th, 2014, 8:05 pm 
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It used to be an April fool's day joke on this forum to post reports of new freeze-dried beer. Well, imagine if you really could turn water into wine... or at least vodka and rum.

http://www.palcohol.com/

Unfortunately the FDA is considering banning powered alcohol. That would be a cryin' shame...

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PostPosted: September 4th, 2014, 8:31 pm 
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Just before FDA approval the inventors tooted on their website that one could snort the product and become instantly drunk. Better off the market than on.


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PostPosted: September 4th, 2014, 8:48 pm 
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Folks, I actually became really excited about this and even went so far as reaching out to a few of my buddies in the US where it is legal and Europe where it is already available. After a bit of research, it turns out the product isn't quite as good as what we might envision (i.e. not the same weight savings as dehydrated food).

So here is the deal. Chemically, alcohol is alcohol. In order for it to stay that way it needs to stay in the form of ethanol. The weight of alcohol has to stay the same as it is, otherwise you aren't purchasing alcohol. The way in which the alcohol is powderized is by adsorbing it onto excess binding agent (the solid powder). Because of its properties, the binding agent isn't all that efficient. I.e. you need more weight of binding agent than alcohol in order to powderize it. Of course when you add water which dissolves the binding agent - you have to ingest that stuff along with your alcohol.

So - most of our nice beverages are 40% alcohol by weight and 60% water. You can go lighter by buying baccardi 151 proof rum (75% alcohol - but it sucks and gives you a headache). In the end, going to powdered alcohol you aren't saving much if any weight at all. You are just replacing the weight of water with the weight of binding agent. I'm also pretty sure that powder-hol isn't quite as nice as a fine bourbon, single malt scotch or classy Caribbean rum (but I could be wrong).

In the end this is a gimmick (unfortunately). But the mass balance doesn't elicit much of a benefit to canoe trippers.


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PostPosted: September 5th, 2014, 11:25 am 
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Geeze, from riches to rags, all in one post!


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PostPosted: September 5th, 2014, 2:28 pm 
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Geeze, from riches to rags, all in one post!


The cup is definitely half empty.


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PostPosted: September 6th, 2014, 9:32 am 
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Maybe OT and belongs in the boat names thread, but never mind especially when alcohol's around...

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PostPosted: September 6th, 2014, 11:00 am 
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Ha, that's clever, think I'll steal it for my next canoe!


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PostPosted: September 6th, 2014, 2:49 pm 
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Not to bring everyone down ,but a longtime friend of mine died of level 4 cirhosis about 4 yrs ago at age 50 .By his own acct he was drinking 2 litres of hard liquor a day 'just to function' . Yeah and of course he dies broke and owing money. ( close to $100K just in a long overdue student loan ) . Another $15K owed to the province on parking tickets/moving violations. And who knows what else.


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PostPosted: September 6th, 2014, 7:21 pm 
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This thread isn't fun anymore... :cry:

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PostPosted: September 7th, 2014, 9:10 am 
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Strathcona, I agree... still, MADD (Mothers Against Drinking and Driving or is it Driving and Drinking, I bet they're probably against both) would certainly have something to say about that boat.

Maybe we should be discussing rehabilitation and the road to recovery here.

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PostPosted: September 7th, 2014, 2:30 pm 
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I'm going to go snort some powdered booze so I feel better...

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